Why Aren't All Windows Fully Automatic?

"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind) 07/21/2018 at 06:51 • Filed to: Roadshow

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From Express-Up requiring ARS to plain old money grabbing, minor-diety Brian Cooley explains why some cars will roll down the window automatically but not back up. He even answers why (in a time where reinventing the shifters is out of hand) window switches aren’t dial, rocker-switches or even touch screens.

for Michigan > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 07:09

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My 8-year-old car does auto down and auto up on  both sides and the sunroof does auto up, auto back, and auto close.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 07:25

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My Jag had auto down and up my BMW has auto down and up. 

Spanfeller is a twat > for Michigan 07/21/2018 at 07:35

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Oh yes, your car... remind us what it is ?

/s

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 07:57

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Every window on my car is auto up a nd down from any switch

jonny11quest > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 08:06

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I have both in my BMW, but never realize how much I like until I get in something else and sit there like “I really have to hold this thing the whole time?”

for Michigan > Spanfeller is a twat 07/21/2018 at 08:14

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If you insist.

Don’t you drive a Hyundai or something ? /s

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > for Michigan 07/21/2018 at 08:41

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Oh yeah? Well my car has crank windows. 

for Michigan > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 07/21/2018 at 08:50

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I’ve never owned a car with crank windows. Even my 85 Fiero had power windows that still worked in 2016 .

I grew up in cars with crank windows though. First car my parents owned that had power windows was an 02 Grand Caravan.

Spanfeller is a twat > for Michigan 07/21/2018 at 08:55

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Yes, very similar to this one:

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > for Michigan 07/21/2018 at 09:29

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So does my 17 year old car 

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 09:42

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Both of my front windows are auto up and down. 

09GT - now boosted > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 09:48

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As someone with kids - I HATE auto-up/down windows for the rear positions. Ever try adjusting the amount of window opening for a 5-year old girl (“no up more, no down more” - repeat 20 times)? It’s a complete pain. If my kids (or any rear passenger)  are too damn lazy to not hold down a button for an entire 3-5 seconds then I have failed as s parent.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 10:15

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I just had a rental 17 Cruze for a few weeks. The windows were all  auto-down but all manual-up. Like WTF Chevy, that would have cost you like an extra two cents. 

bhtooefr > 09GT - now boosted 07/21/2018 at 10:18

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There’s also two kinds of automatic switches.

The kind with a detent for normal operation, and then a further stop for automatic, is fine.

The kind that is just a normal switch, but uses how long you've been holding it, is awful.

Urambo Tauro > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 10:59

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Ok so I understand how ARS is important for express up -equipped vehicles, but m y 1995 Mustang doesn’t have express up. It does, however, have one-touch (express) down for the driver’s side, but not for the passenger’s side. Would I like to have express up? Sure. But it doesn’t bother me so much as how the car seems to taunt me with having express down on only one side.

Unfortunately, in this car’s case, it’s not a simple ma tter of software. The driver door has a s eparate one touch down module wired in- between the switch and motor, and it responds to how long you push the down button . So if I wanted to, I could find another one-touch down module and install it in the passenger door (I’d just have to run an extra hot wire to supply power to it) . It’s just a matter of finding one for an acceptable price and finding the motivation to install it.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > bhtooefr 07/21/2018 at 11:27

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Ford does a lot of the “hold for automatic movement” trigger switches.

It’s infuriating because you could click it down or up for a millisecond and it thinks you’re going for auto mode.

My bird IS the word > Wobbles the Mind 07/21/2018 at 11:28

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My focus st has this on all 4 windows so as far as I’m concerned nobody has an excuse anymore.

My mini lacking a lot of this convenience shit is one of the reasons I didn't like it. How expensive could intermittent wipers really be?

Amoore100 > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 07/23/2018 at 01:20

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It’s a “safety” thing for all the children unfortunate enough to be crammed into the backseat of a Cruze.